do you think this has curtailed violence in this city? >> well, i think that it has curtailed violence as much as possible. the problem that we have, of course, is that the criminals go to virginia, and other places, mostly virginia, buy large quantities of weapons and ship them illegally into new york so they get around the new york laws. which is why i introduced legislation a number of years ago to limit the number of weapons that a licensed gun dealer could sell to a person, to one a month, i think i said. because no legitimate sportsman needs more than -- how many rifles can you have to shoot deer? >> well, today the white house website was flooded with new petitions, but before we get into the xs and os and crossing the ts and dotting the is of any kind of legislation, it really needs to be recognized, for lack of a better term, a game changer. a moment in history where this changes public opinion. do you think we're there? >> i think we will be there, if the president exploits it. and otherwise it will go to the next one. >> and da